#which is a leftist infighting classic tbh
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Just remembered that at some point Rakitin calls the whole Karamazov family a bunch of conservatives and now I can't help but imagine him and Ivan having an insane argument Twitter leftist infighting style
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#I'm saying infighting because even if I don't really know how to define Ivan's politics in detail#he does represent the westernized intellectual and some of his progressive ideas are mentioned in the book#like the whole Church-State separation thing and his opinions on Russia and Russians#and he's presented in opposition to Dmitri and Alyosha who are more aligned with Russian ideals so#he's definitely not as conservative as the rest of the Karamazovs#he's not as anti-Russia as Pavel either but still#and my personal interpretation of him calling Rakitin a liberal is him criticizing Rakitin for being a fake socialist#or not as much of a socialist as he claims to be anyway#which is a leftist infighting classic tbh#but that's just how I see it#this said I don't really think Ivan is a socialist but imo we don't see enough of his politics to give them a detailed definition#the brothers karamazov#ivan karamazov#mikhail rakitin#mine
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